Too Little, Too Late

It was inevidible

Ok guys, the election is OVER.  Republicans lost and lost for good reason.  The economy tanked, the leadership failed, and the Republican party lost its vision.  Losing sucks.  Being a conservative, but not a blind Republican, I lack the personal pain so many Republicans are now experiencing.  As I mentioned elsewhere I am somewhat relieved McCain lost.  Now we will see exactly where the Democrats will take the country and they can bare the blame.  (I know, we’ll be hearing “it’s George Bush’s fault” for as long as they can milk it.)

However, Republicans, especially rank and file Republicans, are demonstrating just how intellectually bankrupt they have become.  Rather than return to their core values, those that traditionally have defined the party and made it strong, some have turned to hurling poop just like Democrats have been doing for the past 8 years.

To illustrate my point let me digress for a few lines.  Have you ever found yourself debating politics with a liberal friend?  Ever notice that as soon as you begin to win the argument or you present too many facts they cease discussing the issue and begin hurling personal insults.  You know, such as, yeah well “Cheney is pulling the strings,” “he’s just evil,” or, “well Bush is an idiot.”  My personal fav is, “you don’t know what you’re talking about.”  For me the debate is over at that point, they lost and now they want to shift the discussion to a subjective point through an ad hominem attack.  We saw this happen on both sides in this election.  Palin was called stupid and Obama was all but called a terrorist.  But for the most part, Democrats, to their credit, kept their focus on the main issue, the economy.  Republicans knowing they could not win on this topic, very publicly shifted the discussion.

Had the economy not been in such a dire situation, perhaps a discussion of character might have been appropriate.  But as it was, the discussion should have been “oh by the way, he has these friends…” rather than offering nothing on the economy and focusing on the side show.  To McCain’s credit he stayed away from these side shows, I’m really criticizing the rank ‘n file, Palin, and talk radio personalities.

McCain’s single biggest failing was his big gamble.  He suspended his campaign to “help solve the financial crisis,” only to sit silently at the table and defer to ranking Republicans, while Obama showed off, speaking for ranking Democrats who knew more on the topic but who allowed him to represent them for the greater benefit of their party.  McCain should have been the “maverick” he claims to be by speaking for his party and presenting a bold proposal in a commanding way.  But that simply is not Mccain’s personality.  Obama is the bold charismatic leader and McCain is an understated pragmatist.  In a crisis, leaders needed to be charismatic.  The herd will only follow a strong leader.  This is why scary dictators rise so fast and so high – not that Obama is a scary dictator – I’m just pointing out a fact.

Obama birth certificate

Obama birth certificate

Returning to the point… now what was that pesky little point?  Oh yeah, the election over and McCain lost, but some Republicans can’t stop or for that matter take a break in their attacks against Obama.  The day after the election I was scanning talk radio and I swear, for these guys the election was still in the future.  The one issue that astounds me is the birth certificate.  If there is anything to this, why was this issue not raised before October?  I suspect because it’s bogus.  What purpose is there in pursuing this?  The birth certificate to the left appears authentic and matches those of other nature born Hawaiian residents.  But that would never even slow people with a point to prove.  What I see here is a last ditch desperate attempt to overthrow the rightfully elected President.

Ordinary Hawaiian Birth Certificate

Ordinary Hawaiian Birth Certificate

ADDENDUM: A reader challenges my take on this birth certificate by pointing back to the Grandmother’s claim.  I made a good reply so I won’t repeat that here.  Instead I want to post another birth certificate from Hawaii.  This one was found on Facebook so I blacked out the last names and certificate number.  The only thing lacking in Obama’s image is the seal.  I suppose we could blow that up into a big issue (and I saw someone has already done that) but what does it prove?  Could just be a scan done by the government rather than someone who first obtained a copy.  (A birth certificate is sealed when a copy is released.)  I stand by my contention that if there was anything to this we’d have had a Kenyan birth certificate a year ago.  In pursuing this, those involved look like complete idiots – or more accurately – like they are trying to steal an election.  Reminds me of the Democrat calls for impeachment we heard following the ’04 election.  AND NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST.

Have we learned nothing from the Clinton Presidency?  These kinds of political attacks only foster resentment and cost the taxpayers a whole lot of money.  I believe much of G.W. Bush’s hardships with Congress were the direct result of “payback” for the endless Whitewater investigations of the Clinton years.  It is time to stop fighting and start working on solutions to our very real problems.  Trying to overthrow Obama on a technicality is pointless now.  If there was anything to this don’t you think Hillary Clinton would have been all over this a year ago?  Come on people – STOP BEING IDIOTS!

In the end here is my bottom line point… As the minority party, (and a dwindling minority at that), work to become a real alternative with real workable solutions.  Keep your solutions in the press, on talk radio, on the INTERNET, on TV, heck get them on YouTube.  When the Democrats ram through their programs and those programs fail or are disappointments, the people will know you have solutions that were ignored.  Make your pitch directly to the American people, get your message out, let people know that when one party controls every branch of the government we get “Group Think”.

I know the Republicans will be harshly censored in the years ahead, just as we witnessed when Nancy Pelosi turned off the lights on Republicans and REFUSED to work on the energy crisis last August.  Republicans need to regain the trust of American voters by not wasting our time and money on witch hunts, but rather by working on solid well-founded alternatives.  I would like to see a strong commanding conservative step up, take charge, and reestablish conservatism.  The party has tacked so far to the center they cross the center line more than they maintain the right.  When Democrats were defeated and embattled I expected they would tack right but instead they moved farther to the left.  It helped define them as an alternative to Republicans.  Now Republicans are defeated and embattled.  They should take a page from the Democrat playbook and move to the right and stop whining.

It is time to be patriots with answers not fear.  I swear I’ve never seen a more sorry crew of politicians than have taken Washington this year.  If one wants to highlight the awful condition of our American democracy today, I need only to mention one name — Al Franken.  Why?  If this guy can come close to or even steal an election it shows just how disgusted voters are with Republicans.

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    • Dennis
    • November 26th, 2008

    The birth issue isn’t about Obama. It’s about our process, that has no vetting process for the candidates. A security guard is more investigated. A private citizen has no standing and can’t force an investigation, nor Supreme court decision. According to the constitution only McCain has right to sue, since he is only one truly injured.

    The “Hillary” question answered: she is not that bright. Produce a birth certification, and to her the question is settled. The true question is: was a birth certificate filed by mother or Hospital. If by mom, he WAS born in Kenya, as his grandma claims and aman that blessed him. Wait… Real issue might be did he give up citizenship when traveling on Indonesian passport…. Wait. I don’t care!!!!!! What I do care about is the MYTH of a free press that vetted Palin to core of her email, but didn’t raise one question about this in coverage!!!!! Wake UP!!!

    • anamericanidiot
    • November 26th, 2008

    Thank you for your comments. Please try not to get too emotional. I question the timing of the question. among other things. Look closely at the certificate. Does anything hint that it is a forgery? I have seen comments by at least 10 Hawaiians claiming it looks exactly like their own. So this challenge led me to edit my post to include a REAL Hawaiian birth certificate. Please scroll back up and compare.

    Now let’s move to motive. I have heard it said if there is no body and no motive there is little likelihood of a crime. Why would Obama’s mother falsify Barack’s birthplace? Did she receive Divine foreknowledge? You see, Barack would still have been a US citizen since his mother was a US citizen. I have known many missionary and military children born in other countries and never has there been a question of citizenship, so Momma Obama had no motive to lie – UNLESS – she KNEW someday he would be a serious candidate for President of the United States. An old Kenyan woman making a birth claim holds no weight in the real world. First, she has how many grandkids? Second, she offered what proof? I have yet to see even a scanned image of a Kenyan birth certificate and believe me I searched hard. Maybe this is what you’re looking for: http://slicedbreadtwo.com/images/uploads/COLMKBTWL.gif

    Enjoy! Again thanks for the comments and you’re invited to play again.

    • Dennis
    • November 26th, 2008

    I am not emotional. I hope Obama was born in Hawaii for the sake of martial law. I am perplexed no one cares about precedent or the Constitution or underlying rot of our media (White house access means more than reporting critically against any new standing Administration; consolidation of media is corruptin; ad money corrupts, and Obama spent throught the roof) and political system (personality wins over logic; divide and conquer for power over principle).

    First, people don’t understand that a Hawain birth certification as Obama supplied isn’t even enough in Hawaii to prove you of Hawain lineage. You need a birth certificate. A certification of birth is a computer generated document, which is not a birth certificate. Anyway, why won’t he or cronies of the Hawaiin Govt. produce the real one, and let us see who filed it?

    If the hospital filed it, then indeed he was born in Hawaii. Praise God. If Mom filed it, then the only conclusion is he was born at home or Kenya at a time of laws that would disqualify him from President. And, thus the coverup, even fraud. (Obama insists he was born in a hospital, sister insists another across town.)
    Secondly, the laws of the time state that the mother would need to be 21 if child born abroad to be a US citizen. She wasn’t. There is the motive.

    Third, it isn’t our place to vet Obama. This is something that should be done above our heads and openly. (Gov of Hawaii unilaterally sealed his birth certificate.) Once proven, all questions should be answered and trumpeted, not just partial proof. My first question: Who filed the certificate–mom, or as he claims, born in a hospital?

    My second: where was the Govt, Obama, and Media since Sept. and the Berg suit filed, to probe this problem of candidate vetting. Not one mention of the Berg suit on FOX MSNBC or CNN during the months. Why was it only the fringe abuzz from Sept. on. The same fringe that was talking about a coming subprime crash of Fall 08 since 07. Unfortunately, those that know history, can’t be too naive. And history is lunacy.

  1. I understand your concerns but you are peeing in the wind. Guess who gets wet? The only thing that will result from pursuing this is further damage to the Republican party. The people jumping up and down demanding answers look like fools. When Obama launched his campaign in 2007 these questions should have been raised. I disagree about whose job it is. Unfortunately, it IS your job. You have an obligation as a US citizen to participate in our representative democracy. You do that through voting and knowing as much as possible about the candidates BEFORE you cast your vote. This is the true problem in our nation, it’s never “my job.” Now suddenly you want the job done. Sorry you missed the opportunity and the tsunami of change has swept away our opportunity.

    If you want to change the law and require background checks and proof of citizenship before the campaign can be officially launched, you must wait until 2016. For the next 8 years, a very powerful partisan party is in control and all Republican efforts need to be aimed at rebuilding, redefining, and offering viable alternatives. These kinds of political badgering and witch hunt activities will only further damage the party. But hey, if the leadership wants to nail the coffin shut they should contact Alan Keyes and offer a hand.

    • Eowyn
    • November 27th, 2008

    Way to go, “An American Idiot”! So you’re saying that, on this issue of whether Obama actually meets the Constitutional requirement of being a natural-born American, not wanting to appear a fool is more important than the U.S. Constitution?

    The reason why this issue is gathering steam in the bloggersphere is BECAUSE those who can put this matter to rest once and for all continue to refuse to cooperate. The other reason is because we are fast approaching the day when the Electoral College votes.

  2. Thanks for the comment. You make a good point. Actually, while it sounds like I’m making that point, (“whether Obama actually meets the Constitutional requirement of being a natural-born American, not wanting to appear a fool is more important than the U.S. Constitution?”), in my comment, that is not really my point. My point is I don’t buy it. I think it is a bogus issue. I think if there was any truth to this Hillary Clinton would have found it. Unlike Dennis, I don’t think she is an idiot. She wanted that job and frankly was far more qualified, why would she have let something this big go? I won’t repeat the blog. My comment was intended to say that if you want an official screening system, you’re not getting it until after 2016.

    On the off chance Obama is a foreign agent who has usurped the Presidency, the chances of ever proving that died shortly after the election. I don’t see enough evidence to make this worth chasing. But hey, people are still trying to prove Oswald’s innocence…

  3. Actually, it is not a rhumor that an “old lady in Kenya” made a statement as to where Obama’s birth place is. It is a fact that is recorded on YouTube.

    You’ve written a lot about this and are attempting to be persuassive in your arguing for Obama. That is a red flag if you are truly a concerned conservative.

    I see you have copies of the COLB. Have you read or listened to anything Dr. Ron Polarik has stated on this? Are you aware of a site that takes you to the U.S. Supreme Court Docket cases? This site will give you the docket number that clearly says the Leo Donofrio will meet with the U.S. Supreme court in a closed door conference.

    Are you aware that a legitimate application for stay of the General Election was filed correctly, however Donald Bickler , The Court Clerk refused to file it. And, this, is also a subject of the conference the Supreme Court will meet on with Donofrio.

    Stay informed if you are going to post on this issue. I have no doubt that your intent is to sabatage and confuse people as to what is actually occuring.

  4. Thanks for the comments. You figured it out, [rips away mask to reveal the face of Obama] I AM Obama and this is my secret method of confusing the rank and file conservatives. You’ll never stop my evil plan now.

    Enough already, I am tired of defending Obama. I didn’t vote for him nor do I agree him on most issues. Your comments betray a conspiratorial fan. I am well aware of everything you pointed out except you left out that U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter rejected the emergency appeal for the court to halt the tabulation of the election returns on November 3rd. Instead you lead us to believe the appeal was stopped by a conspiracy.

    There is nothing that will change your mind so carry on wayward son. In four years, you”ll still be spending millions to prove this, (by the way when does the word of an old lady mean more than a document? Oh yeah “all is fair in love and war”), all your efforts will help win this leftist another four years. Instead I want Republicans to spend the next four years forming solutions and building political capital – not wasting political capital on rumors and desperate gambles. Yes it is a rumor when someone makes a claim without any substantive proof.

  5. PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: PLEASE RELEASE YOUR BIRTH RECORDS

    I know you are busy setting up your new administration as the President elect of the greatest country in the world, but there are a couple of things about your background and qualifications for the office that concern me and many of my fellow Americans. Never before has a Presidential candidate failed to fully disclose routine information about their background.It seems that many records concerning your background have either been sealed or are temporarily unavailable for review. I know that any honest person like yourself, who is about to assume the highest office in the land, would never overtly want to keep such information from public review.

    Here’s a partial list:

    1. College records from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard — Not available and secured by college administrators.
    2. Columbia Thesis paper — not available, secured by college administrators
    3. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released (sealed?)
    4. Certified Copy of Certification of Live Birth — Not released (sealed?)

    I believe items #3 and 4 are the most critical and they concern two issues that are very important to the American people:

    1. Are Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.? and
    2. Are you legally qualified to hold the Office of President?

    There have been several lawsuits filed, or currently being filed, in 7 or 8 states with various state Boards of Elections, claiming you are ineligible to be on their ballots because you have not produced proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States.As you may recall, there was a Cetificate of Live Birth (COLB) for you posted on your campaign website in the past that was reported as an original, but which was later found to be only an abstract of a computer record having no connection to the original 1961 COLB document. The abstract copy was later taken down.

    In an election of a President, where being a “Natural Born Citizen” is a requirement for the position, I believe that the American people have a right to know if you are a natural born citizen.What does the actual original document say about the birth? What hospital were you born in? Who was the attending physician? What was the date and time? What names are listed on the COLB? I think the question of your birth is a very important constitutional issue and the issue should be publicly put to rest one way or the other.

    Mr Obama, it seems that you are creating needless confusion when you could easily avoid all of this doubt simply by asking for release of your original 1961 document and let it be examined. Why haven’t you done this? and why have you fought against every attempt to produce the document?Mr. Obama, if you are truly and honorable man and a “Natural Born Citizen of the United States” you can clear up this issue very quickly. Just sign a release to have the full document examined and made available for public scrutiny.

    Your continued avoidance of the issue and your subsequent failure to provide proof that you are a “Natural Born Citizen of the United States” is very suspicious and raises a very important constitutional issue that must be addressed before you take office. I am asking you to stop using legal technicalities, record sealing and courtroom maneuvers to avoid the issue. The American people have every constitutional right to know whether or not you are a “Natural Born Citizen” and they will eventually find out.

    Let’s put this issue to rest once and for all so you can get on with the nation’s business.

    John Wallace
    http://www.NYCampaignforLiberty.com

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